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Mileage Moment of Truth - We Put 40Mpg Claims to the Test

Popular Mechanics -- The 2012 Hyundai Elantra and Ford Focus SFE are among 20-plus cars that now claim 40 mpg highway. But given the peculiar way in which the EPA calculates its fuel economy estimates, do those mileage numbers truly reflect real-world driving? We tested the Elantra and Focus on the streets and roads of Michigan to find out, with some surprising results.

PM Mileage Test at a Glance

We took two closely matched, high-mileage vehicles on multiple test loops to see if they could hit their EPA window-sticker numbers on real roads...

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Submitted Feb 05, 2012 By: sluggopyle

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Edpap Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,508 Points:147,710 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 1:31:02 PM Ignore Edpap Report Abuse Nice to know you can get a 40 mpg vehicle that isn't a hybrid. The Elantras are great little cars at a reasonable price with lots of options included. I haven't driven a new Focus, the older ones are junk and in the same category as the "famous" Dodge Neons.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,932 Points:1,242,175 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 5:15:40 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse CAFE standards for ICE are a joke, why do we expect them to be different for non-ICE?
sluggopyle Champion Author North Carolina Posts:22,743 Points:1,052,075 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:59:34 PM Ignore sluggopyle Report Abuse => So the numbers used for CAFE compliance are not those on the window sticker but rather markedly higher numbers produced by unrealistic testing. Does that make sense to anyone? <= I'm sure it makes sense to the automakers since it's a lower bar to reach. Gotta wonder if they arranged it that way...
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,745 Points:1,246,950 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 2:20:08 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “Further complicating matters is that for the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE), the government uses the uncorrected data.” So the numbers used for CAFE compliance are not those on the window sticker but rather markedly higher numbers produced by unrealistic testing. Does that make sense to anyone?
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,745 Points:1,246,950 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 11:26:16 AM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “All [EPA tests] currently use 100 percent gasoline, something consumers generally cannot buy because 10 percent ethanol mix is what most pumps dispense.” Interesting. I have been assuming that one of the reasons I get much better mileage than the EPA rating is that I use E0 gas exclusively. Apparently that is not the case. How I drive is even more important than I thought it was.
RonTheRunner77 Veteran Author Michigan Posts:343 Points:119,115 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 2:57:20 AM Ignore RonTheRunner77 Report Abuse my car is rated at 32 mpg but I can get 44mpg out of it, its all in how you drive.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:25,972 Points:1,979,460 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 2:28:00 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Mileage Moment of Truth? Tests should be performed using real world driving conditions. The EPA uses five different test procedures: city cycle, highway cycle, air conditioning on, high-speed driving, and cold starting for carbon monoxide emissions, with 100 percent gasoline. Drive the way GasBuddy recommends and the MPG should be higher the rated vehicle MPG. It does Not matter what size or shape the vehicle is, Produce and ‘drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money and everything else will fall in line. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
must87searcher Champion Author Maryland Posts:7,145 Points:1,414,795 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:20:14 PM Ignore must87searcher Report Abuse In tests like this, there is always a chance that different results will come up. This has been proven for a number of this we use. The EPA is not perfect.
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:9,030 Points:1,765,705 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:11:45 PM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse My 2001 Ford Focus 4dr Sedan (2.0L 8V I4 4spd auto) has EPA ratings under the new system of 24/32. I average better than 32 overall and get over 40MPG driving 55MPH on the interstate. I get 32MPG when driving about 70MPH. Newer models do quite a bit better (their ratings show that). 2001 European models with smaller displacement get even better (a 1.6L Ti-VCT 8V I4 outputs 105HP and gets 49.0MPG). Their diesel versions do better than that with a 1.6L TDCi 8V I4 Turbo Diesel rated 95HP getting 63.5MPG on the highway. There is supposedly a 1.0L 6V I3 EcoBoost variant coming making 100HP and getting 58MPG on the highway. That should be good enough for most people. The 1.6L 8V I4 105HP turbo diesel HEV variant (ECOnetic) is targeted for 80MPG. That would likely satisfy the new desired fuel mileage standard.
umitb Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,843 Points:489,210 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:01:55 PM Ignore umitb Report Abuse ok
PoohMcGoo Champion Author South Carolina Posts:1,877 Points:472,830 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:52:35 PM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse They want to get us mpg so we won't complain as much when they raise gas prices..
cimilluca1 Sophomore Author New York Posts:193 Points:154,325 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:51:13 PM Ignore cimilluca1 Report Abuse It shouldn't seem like a stretch....I used to get over 40 mpg with my 1983 Dodge Charger.
crazycow2332 All-Star Author Nashville Posts:906 Points:183,855 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:49:56 PM Ignore crazycow2332 Report Abuse they are all estimates. I tend to get higher than what the sticker says.
sljbc475 Champion Author Tucson Posts:2,365 Points:505,350 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:49:11 PM Ignore sljbc475 Report Abuse Terrain, weather and other factors affect MPG.
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:1,434 Points:232,480 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:48:16 PM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse It really depends on how you drive... EPA and PM test differs somewhat.. More test by others may also differ some... But, they are all in the same ball park...
fenster66 Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:1,488 Points:307,965 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:47:05 PM Ignore fenster66 Report Abuse drive less, save more....
JesseJack52 All-Star Author Virginia Beach Posts:612 Points:124,640 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:46:36 PM Ignore JesseJack52 Report Abuse IN OUR GREAT COUNTRY WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT WE DRIVE
kkimes All-Star Author Illinois Posts:842 Points:1,179,245 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:43:54 PM Ignore kkimes Report Abuse "SO, how did this affect the price of gas?" Quite simple, really. Use less gas, the demand and thus the price goes down. We may never get off gas (from crude oil) all together but we can sure reduce the demand for it.
my2002m Champion Author Tulsa Posts:4,234 Points:1,304,245 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:39:58 PM Ignore my2002m Report Abuse They all very.
mrreferee All-Star Author Savannah Posts:652 Points:262,490 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:37:26 PM Ignore mrreferee Report Abuse they should change it to GMPG- Guesstimated Miles Per Gallon
davenles Champion Author Texas Posts:1,361 Points:352,560 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:36:09 PM Ignore davenles Report Abuse It's just a numbers game.
sit Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,389 Points:1,569,165 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:35:30 PM Ignore sit Report Abuse OK
CptnCanada Champion Author Saskatoon Posts:5,488 Points:706,975 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:34:34 PM Ignore CptnCanada Report Abuse Yep I get 40 mpg too... when I am going downhill with a 100 kph tail wind
tippybuddy Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,329 Points:180,560 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:34:10 PM Ignore tippybuddy Report Abuse I agree to take these cars onto roads we would actually use and then see what mileage they get..
Thomtec All-Star Author Nashville Posts:703 Points:247,245 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:30:26 PM Ignore Thomtec Report Abuse Hey this is from Popular Mechanics.
ccf_jeff Champion Author St. Louis Posts:13,230 Points:2,198,760 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:29:44 PM Ignore ccf_jeff Report Abuse That just shows the extent of the deliberate government BS. That government is best which governs the least. They need to quit wasting so much of our money. Especially when they use it to distort the figures they give us.
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:6,845 Points:1,096,895 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:29:17 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse My '73 Subaru 1400GL coupe and '76 Honda Accord hatchback got 40 MPG easily. But that was on good 'ole LEADED gasoline...
idigau22 Champion Author Washington Posts:21,102 Points:2,902,760 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:26:46 PM Ignore idigau22 Report Abuse I love my big 4x4 truck!!!
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,938 Points:402,375 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:24:17 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse No one matches the toyota prius.
goodbuy Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,000 Points:1,090,295 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:24:07 PM Ignore goodbuy Report Abuse SO, how did this affect the price of gas?
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,938 Points:402,375 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:23:49 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse That still doesn't match to the toyota prius.
72_Monte Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,938 Points:1,631,300 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:22:38 PM Ignore 72_Monte Report Abuse Have fun with that.
radiorumor Champion Author Texas Posts:1,037 Points:390,795 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:16:20 PM Ignore radiorumor Report Abuse Some claim 40 but pull up short
orcar Champion Author Boise Posts:1,844 Points:519,310 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:15:39 PM Ignore orcar Report Abuse The EPA rating is right on for my 4 cyl Malibu.
DrLyon Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,907 Points:849,900 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:15:34 PM Ignore DrLyon Report Abuse Never get best millage at 70MPH!!!!!!!!
RedRam2005 Champion Author San Antonio Posts:6,138 Points:1,154,210 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:15:08 PM Ignore RedRam2005 Report Abuse Mileage claims are all smoke and mirrors.
pse91 All-Star Author Calgary Posts:611 Points:278,070 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:13:50 PM Ignore pse91 Report Abuse Take the cars on the road where we would normally drive. Then give us the average.
LCSTEELERBOB Champion Author Gary Posts:2,229 Points:547,600 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:11:36 PM Ignore LCSTEELERBOB Report Abuse makes you think about this
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:6,119 Points:1,213,230 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:08:09 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse intersting
nvwarped All-Star Author Corpus Christi Posts:881 Points:187,650 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:04:06 PM Ignore nvwarped Report Abuse ok
Buck_on_Bass Champion Author Tennessee Posts:5,681 Points:1,127,270 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:03:05 PM Ignore Buck_on_Bass Report Abuse This just shows how unrealistic the tests are. Instead of applying a correction factor, the test procedures should be revised to better represent the actual driving.
mikerroy All-Star Author Albuquerque Posts:762 Points:370,855 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:01:43 PM Ignore mikerroy Report Abuse ok
Alfied Champion Author Riverside Posts:6,104 Points:1,395,985 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:58:25 PM Ignore Alfied Report Abuse It's for comparison purposes only.
lightninjack Sophomore Author Ohio Posts:173 Points:13,570 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:57:45 PM Ignore lightninjack Report Abuse I always thought mine got more than what it is supposed to..of course those figures are all based on factory settings...if you know what your doing you can tweak them and get more mileage.
trinda1 Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,732 Points:396,315 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:55:41 PM Ignore trinda1 Report Abuse O Kay
AnObserver Champion Author New Jersey Posts:6,715 Points:1,930,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:55:06 PM Ignore AnObserver Report Abuse Regardless of the measurement method, there are the most efficient vehicles on the road today
baconnie Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,676 Points:534,915 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:54:05 PM Ignore baconnie Report Abuse They should be tested by real people
carman11 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:1,438 Points:324,720 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:52:44 PM Ignore carman11 Report Abuse Ok this is interesting
slowpoke63 Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,302 Points:616,435 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:48:51 PM Ignore slowpoke63 Report Abuse Interesting.
Stooker Sophomore Author Ontario Posts:158 Points:67,270 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:45:56 PM Ignore Stooker Report Abuse wow